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and reminding everyone how desperately out of touch ryan and romney are. joining us now, the nation's largest public employee union and jack bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economist for vice president joe biden. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, rev. >> good evening, al. >> i want both of you to weigh in on this. lee, you're in columbus, ohio. is it your feeling that it will resonate with voters in that state? >> i've been to cincinnati and toledo. i'm in columbus today. not only with members but people across the community, across the spectrum, they are excited about this election. they watched that debate last night. they watched joe biden clean the clock of the supposed economic intellectual guru of the party. cleaned his clock. and they talk about the real issues at impact, whether it's social security. it's clear now that republicans want to privatize social security. they talked about medicare. they want to make medicare into a coupon program. that's what paul ryan and mitt romney are talking about. our folks are ener
and reminding everyone how desperately out of touch ryan and romney are. joining us now, the nation's largest public employee union and jack bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economist for vice president joe biden. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, rev. >> good evening, al. >> i want both of you to weigh in on this. lee, you're in columbus, ohio. is it your feeling that it will resonate with voters in that state? >> i've been to cincinnati...
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both the romney and the obama campaigns are out stumping tonight. mitt romney and president obama have 50 possible states to fight over. they have nine or so swing states that seem to actually be in play. tonight mitt romney and barack obama are both in just one state. mr. romney appearing with chris christie and rob portman in akron, ohio. the president showing up with will.i.am. >> buckeyes, we need you. we need you fired up. >> ohio is going to elect me the next president of the united states. >> all the interest in competing in ohio, the desperate need to win the election in ohio, the dualing rallies and the ground games, all that comes from the context of a big surprising decision in ohio this afternoon. about how the election is going to be run there this year. back in 2004, the night that the democratic ticket decided not to concede the race on election night because they were waiting on results. part of what was happening in '04 was this. these horrendous epic lines for ohio voters. they waited ten hours and more in ohio in 2004 to cast a vo
both the romney and the obama campaigns are out stumping tonight. mitt romney and president obama have 50 possible states to fight over. they have nine or so swing states that seem to actually be in play. tonight mitt romney and barack obama are both in just one state. mr. romney appearing with chris christie and rob portman in akron, ohio. the president showing up with will.i.am. >> buckeyes, we need you. we need you fired up. >> ohio is going to elect me the next president of the...
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amid new signs of urgency from both campaigns. case in point, this afternoon's gallup poll showing the president leading mitt romney 49% to 46% among registered voters. among likely voters it's romney up by two leading the president 49% to 47%. folks, this is a tight race as both candidates are keenly aware. romney began in iowa, one of the states that could prove crucial to his hopes for a path to 270 electoral votes. and he was introduced by his son, josh, who had an interesting take on romney's debate preparation. >> we'd say the same lie over and over and my dad learned then not to believe it. so while we didn't go to any of the formal debate preparation, we did the real hard stuff. as a father, he learned how to debate an obstinate child. >> kicking it off by suggesting the president is an obstinate child. that's great, mr. romney. what do you have for sale? >> i am going to put a cap on regulation and any new major regulation will have to be approved by congress. i'm not letting the politicians off the hook. >> absolutely, h
amid new signs of urgency from both campaigns. case in point, this afternoon's gallup poll showing the president leading mitt romney 49% to 46% among registered voters. among likely voters it's romney up by two leading the president 49% to 47%. folks, this is a tight race as both candidates are keenly aware. romney began in iowa, one of the states that could prove crucial to his hopes for a path to 270 electoral votes. and he was introduced by his son, josh, who had an interesting take on...
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thank you both for being here. >> thanks, reverend. >> chris, let me start with you. does vice president biden need to point to the values of fairness in the ryan plan and now the romney/ryan plan? >> yeah. i think one of the things that was so remarkable and frustrating about the performance in the presidential debate was that romney seemed to essentially disown anything that he had previously advocated that was now unpopular. he pulled this remarkable u-turn. paul ryan -- it's going to be much harder for him to do that. he wrote the ryan plan. >> right. >> he can't run away from the plan that bears his name, the plan that bears his name that would voucherize medicare. so i think the key is for joe biden to take the modern republican party, particularly the modern republican house caucus and hang it around the neck of paul ryan. >> well, ryan wrote the budget, as you said, and ryan is named after -- and he is the one that made some of these votes. kind of hard to run away from it. krystal, when you look at his record, it seems right for pickings. his budget raises ta
thank you both for being here. >> thanks, reverend. >> chris, let me start with you. does vice president biden need to point to the values of fairness in the ryan plan and now the romney/ryan plan? >> yeah. i think one of the things that was so remarkable and frustrating about the performance in the presidential debate was that romney seemed to essentially disown anything that he had previously advocated that was now unpopular. he pulled this remarkable u-turn. paul ryan --...
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and of course, ohio is where both the president and mitt romney are. and on one hand, the president's going to hang out in columbus because he's trying to one up the score. that's a good democratic county. but cincinnati, it's a swing county, right down here. it's one that president bush carried by 23,000 votes. the president carried it by 21,000 votes. it's going to tell you a lot about what's happening in ohio by where that goes. and then moving on into virginia, it won't come as a surprise to folks that the big swing county is in the northern virginia area, since that's where all the growth has been. and i'm sure folks are wondering, is it -- well, let me move here. technology stalls a little bit. is it a loudon, a fairfax, a prince william? well, according to our numbers, it's prince william, and the county seat of prince william, that's manassas. the joke about virginia is when you drive on i-66 in virginia, the welcome center when you've entered the state of virginia, you have to drive 30 miles to prince william county in manassas, and that's whe
and of course, ohio is where both the president and mitt romney are. and on one hand, the president's going to hang out in columbus because he's trying to one up the score. that's a good democratic county. but cincinnati, it's a swing county, right down here. it's one that president bush carried by 23,000 votes. the president carried it by 21,000 votes. it's going to tell you a lot about what's happening in ohio by where that goes. and then moving on into virginia, it won't come as a surprise...
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i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with us. >> we all like pbs. i mean, i have grand kids, they love big bird and burt ander ni and so forth, but we borrow money effectively from china to make sure our kids don't have to watch advertising on pbs. my view is it makes sense to stop borrowing many and let our kids get used to corn flakes. >> sesame street was brought today by the letter "g" for grouch. the capital one cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more [ russian accent ] rubles. eh, eheh, eh, eh. [ brooklyn accent ] 50% more simoleons. [ western accent ] 50% more sawbucks. ♪ [ maine accent ] 50% more clams. it's a lobster, either way. [ male announcer ] the capit
i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with us. >> we all like pbs. i mean, i have grand...
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both campaigns agree with. this obama actually has the advantage in population in electoral votes even though romney has more states in that count. that leaves 14 states, nine of which are the battle grounds in which this campaign is basically being waged. that's where the appearances are. that's where the money is being spent. there are an additional five states, michigan is among them, pennsylvania, new mexico, arizona, where the sides don't agree that their foregone conclusions they're not really spending a great deal of resources. those nine states, they've been consistently those nine states over the course of the year. i think that's one of the things that's most interesting, it's been narrow and consistent throughout the year. >> so andy, this new report that mitt romney and the gop are really doubling and tripling their ad buys in several of the swing states with 24 days to go until the election, how much impact does all this ad money really have on voters? >> well, voters especially in those nine battl
both campaigns agree with. this obama actually has the advantage in population in electoral votes even though romney has more states in that count. that leaves 14 states, nine of which are the battle grounds in which this campaign is basically being waged. that's where the appearances are. that's where the money is being spent. there are an additional five states, michigan is among them, pennsylvania, new mexico, arizona, where the sides don't agree that their foregone conclusions they're not...
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. >> buckeye battleground, obama and romney both in ohio tonight. the state that matters most to republicans. first, romney kicks off the day at a family farm in iowa where he will be speaking minutes from now. and the battle over big bird, the president turns his attack into a punch line and a commercial, as sesame workshop and senator john mccain cried foul over the obama campaign's new bird ad. >> elmo is -- has been seen in a white suburban he's driving for the border. oscar is hide out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> one thing that president obama can't run on is his record, and so big bird, i guess, is a fun thing to talk about. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama and mitt romney are heading back to ohio today in a very different situation than the last time they campaigned in the battleground state. the new pew poll know shows governor romney ahead among likely voters. it's th
. >> buckeye battleground, obama and romney both in ohio tonight. the state that matters most to republicans. first, romney kicks off the day at a family farm in iowa where he will be speaking minutes from now. and the battle over big bird, the president turns his attack into a punch line and a commercial, as sesame workshop and senator john mccain cried foul over the obama campaign's new bird ad. >> elmo is -- has been seen in a white suburban he's driving for the border. oscar is...
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obama and romney both hunker down for one final day of debate prep. >> how is the debate prep going, sir? >> it is going great. >> now about a week ago i had a
obama and romney both hunker down for one final day of debate prep. >> how is the debate prep going, sir? >> it is going great. >> now about a week ago i had a
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on both sides. look, last week, even during the presidential debate between president obama and mitt romney, the obama campaign tried to push on twitter the idea that mitt romney was being inappropriately testy. they tried so hard to push the testy mitt idea. they tried so hard to make that into a thing that people should feel about that debate. >> he got testy about it. he got testy about being on defense. i think that came across to the american people. >> a testy governor romney who spent the entire time on defense. >> i think for some folks at home it probably came across a little testy. >> yeah, no. nice try. i mean, maybe mitt romney was testy, at the presidential debate, and maybe joe biden did laugh in paul ryan's face all night at the vice presidential debate. but that is in part because these guys, mitt romney and joe biden, were pumped and they were pumped because they were obviously winning their debates. and complaining about that does not change that. but the other person who was pumpe
on both sides. look, last week, even during the presidential debate between president obama and mitt romney, the obama campaign tried to push on twitter the idea that mitt romney was being inappropriately testy. they tried so hard to push the testy mitt idea. they tried so hard to make that into a thing that people should feel about that debate. >> he got testy about it. he got testy about being on defense. i think that came across to the american people. >> a testy governor romney...
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i think romney is doing both and romney -- watching him right now is watching him go through the different phases of romney, 509s shades of romney shall we say. >> that's exactly what they have thought. so people have talked about this a lot. the notion of they were kind of a fork in the road in the spring. do we want to run against him as a flip flopping phony or run against -- coreless, their pitch before, or do we want to cast him as a right wing radical. they seemed to and did make a decision to do right wing radical and one on throughout. i talked about david plouffe about this in may and he said we're going do both when we have to. we're going to say mitt romney there he goes trying to flip flop, coreless a phony, but not forget where he actually is, and then this is -- we're going to keep trying to pin him back to these positions he's taken. i think they have been horrible since the debate, the obama campaign. they are -- jon ward understates the degree to which they are knocked off guard and they are flailing right now and the stuff they're saying, the big bird ad, all of it -- >>
i think romney is doing both and romney -- watching him right now is watching him go through the different phases of romney, 509s shades of romney shall we say. >> that's exactly what they have thought. so people have talked about this a lot. the notion of they were kind of a fork in the road in the spring. do we want to run against him as a flip flopping phony or run against -- coreless, their pitch before, or do we want to cast him as a right wing radical. they seemed to and did make a...
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milbank, thank you both. >>> even on his running mate, mitt romney cannot tell the truth. stay with us. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, i don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime. experienced debater. in is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. [ female announcer ] did you know the average person smiles more than 50 times a day? so brighten your smile a healthy way with listerine® whitening plus restoring rinse. it's the only rinse that makes your teeth two shades whiter and two times stronger. ♪ listerine® whitening... power to your mouth. [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood
milbank, thank you both. >>> even on his running mate, mitt romney cannot tell the truth. stay with us. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, i don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime. experienced debater. in is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. [ female announcer ] did you know the average person smiles more than 50 times a day? so brighten your...
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thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks. >> you know, joan, this is breath taking even for romney. >> it really is. you know, i have a tiny bit of sympathy for his campaign, reverend al, now, because they are people who follow around the parade with the pooper scooper. every time he says something like that -- i feel like i've gotten into a rhythm now. he's said something controversial. wait one, two, three. somebody is going to give a statement to the national review. he didn't mean that either. whether it's the pre-existing thing or choice. the amount of legislation coming down the pike, and also what romney knows about that legislation because he framed it in a wriggle room way. even with all of those outs, he's still lying. he knows he's losing with women. >> that's the point. it's like he'll do anything to close the deal. it's like he's still in the venture capital business, close the deal, say anything. and erin, the president is calling him on this. let me show you what we just got in, what the president said in an interview today. >> he thinks that it is appropriate for po
thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks. >> you know, joan, this is breath taking even for romney. >> it really is. you know, i have a tiny bit of sympathy for his campaign, reverend al, now, because they are people who follow around the parade with the pooper scooper. every time he says something like that -- i feel like i've gotten into a rhythm now. he's said something controversial. wait one, two, three. somebody is going to give a statement to the national review....
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mitt romney is up in burlington, massachusetts. the president, he's in williamsburg, virginia, where he's been honing his skills since saturday. his only break, a half hour visit on sunday to a local campaign office where he delivered food and made phone calls to volunteers. the president knows that he must halt romney's recent momentum with this race now looking tighter than the locks on his opponent's car elevator. new national polls show a close contest. in a new "washington post"/abc news poll the president leads romney 49% to 46%. but that edge shrinking to just one point, 49% to 48%, in a politico/george washington university battleground poll. the two surveys show different results out of the battleground states. the post poll has the president up by five points, 51% to 46%. in the gw poll, he trails by two, 50% to 48%. but perhaps the news that's bringing real moisture to mitt romney's tear ducts, voters are finally seeing him as a little likable. in the gw survey, romney's fa r favorability is now above water. 50% view him
mitt romney is up in burlington, massachusetts. the president, he's in williamsburg, virginia, where he's been honing his skills since saturday. his only break, a half hour visit on sunday to a local campaign office where he delivered food and made phone calls to volunteers. the president knows that he must halt romney's recent momentum with this race now looking tighter than the locks on his opponent's car elevator. new national polls show a close contest. in a new "washington...
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it's very hard to come out and make both arguments that somehow he's failing the right and left on foreign policy. >> when you try to -- >> it seems like the strategy politically that romney has used on this since he starpted running in this cycle has been let's go -- whatever the events of the day are in foreign policy, whether it's libya exploding in march 2011 or afghanistan, whatever it is, whatever the events of the day are, the official position of the romney campaign has to be, obama is wrong. then they work backwards and work backwards and say, this is why he's wrong. this is why he's weak. the result is when you look at everything he said, total, utter incoherence. you have him suggesting today potentiwtentially military intervention in libya. >> also in iran. >> what did he say when we started -- the intervention in libya began with nato? march 2011? a completely different tune. he responds to the events of the day and works backwards to say why obama has failed. >> what's interesting to see in that foreign policy debate if the president comes equipped with contradictory statemen
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>> i would say it's going to be both. i think both of these guys talk about wonky thing in philosophical ways. but my sense from the body language is that their hope is not to lose this. neither one of them wants to say top of the ticket, sorry about that. >> they don't want a gaffe. >> they don't want a gaffe. >> suppose you play ryan. why do you want to get rid of the estate tax? why do you want to get rid of capital gains? why do you want to reduce the top rate from 35 to 28? why do you want to give poor people more money and screw people on medicare? why do you want to do that? >> we have the world's leading expert sitting right here and you're asking me to do that? >> i've got to deprogram myself after this. >> is that tough? you're not cutting the debt. you're taking money from poor people and giving it to rich people. >> well, look, what we do know is that is exactly what the ryan budget does. when it comes to asking the wealthy to put in one penny, one penny to -- >> if i could guess what ryan is going to do, ever
>> i would say it's going to be both. i think both of these guys talk about wonky thing in philosophical ways. but my sense from the body language is that their hope is not to lose this. neither one of them wants to say top of the ticket, sorry about that. >> they don't want a gaffe. >> they don't want a gaffe. >> suppose you play ryan. why do you want to get rid of the estate tax? why do you want to get rid of capital gains? why do you want to reduce the top rate from...
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romney mnsz's resurgence is disappointing news for republicans. thaerts, i said republicans. >> i'm krystal ball. the highest court takes on higher learning. this could shake up college admissions all across the country. >> first he ruffled big bird's feathers and now mitt romney is leaving sponge bob out to dry. who is next, little mermaid? >> a little fantasy football ahead of the biden/ryan smackdown. it's all in "the cycle" for this tuesday, october 9th. >>> exactly one month from today, all the ads, debates and campaign stops will finally be over, but until then we're stuck politics mode. it's the last day of voter registration in ohio. mitt romney is heading there tonight to start an intense five-day push in the state after spending the morn in iowa. combined, iowa and ohio have 24 electoral votes up for grabs. obama won both states in 2008 and has a stlim three-point lead in these two battlegrounds. speaking of battlegrounds, word today the romney camp is moving resources out of pennsylvania and into ohio hoping to target early voters in th
romney mnsz's resurgence is disappointing news for republicans. thaerts, i said republicans. >> i'm krystal ball. the highest court takes on higher learning. this could shake up college admissions all across the country. >> first he ruffled big bird's feathers and now mitt romney is leaving sponge bob out to dry. who is next, little mermaid? >> a little fantasy football ahead of the biden/ryan smackdown. it's all in "the cycle" for this tuesday, october 9th....
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and they have both talked about tougher sanctions. obama administration is moving, coordinating with the europeans on tougher sanctions against iran. even as it leaves the door open to diplomacy. i'm not sure what mitt romney can do to except escalate the military option that would differentiate, be that different than what the obama administration has done. >> we also hear that in this speech today he'll emphasize the solution of a two-state solution and when we saw that videotape of a fund-raiser earlier this year, he dismissed that. how important is that in the big picture of foreign policy? >> well, at the moment, the peace process is dead and both men also talk about a two-state solution so again i'm not sure that it's one that will really differentiate the candidates. but it is true that mitt romney has a much stronger relationship with the prime minister of israel and there's almost open hostility between president obama and benjamin netanyahu. >> it does seem that often in campaigns that we talk about the lack of foreign polic
and they have both talked about tougher sanctions. obama administration is moving, coordinating with the europeans on tougher sanctions against iran. even as it leaves the door open to diplomacy. i'm not sure what mitt romney can do to except escalate the military option that would differentiate, be that different than what the obama administration has done. >> we also hear that in this speech today he'll emphasize the solution of a two-state solution and when we saw that videotape of a...
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and so does romney. >> this morning both sides are claiming victory and, indeed, everything may change in the next five days when president obama and governor romney take the stage again. but what biden did give is the president -- gave the president a path throwing his detractors off the scent and leading his best friend on the path towards victory. franklin, as the new guy at the table, i ask you first, did vice president biden get the obama campaign back in a place it wants to be? >> well, i'm not sure he got them exactly in the place where they want to be, but i think that he did help stem some of the damage. i think he made best bed wetting liberals like myself feel much better, that they had regained some of its offensive juju and weren't going to roll over why the rejuvenated romney walloped them. >> what was your assessment of paul ryan overall? we're going to get to specific sound but in terms of paul ryan and his debate skills last night, what -- how do you grade limb? >> i think what people are looking for when they are going to watch a debate like this, especially a young -
and so does romney. >> this morning both sides are claiming victory and, indeed, everything may change in the next five days when president obama and governor romney take the stage again. but what biden did give is the president -- gave the president a path throwing his detractors off the scent and leading his best friend on the path towards victory. franklin, as the new guy at the table, i ask you first, did vice president biden get the obama campaign back in a place it wants to be?...
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both sides made misstatements in the debate. doesn't the president need a different game plan going into the next debate? >> i don't accept that the postulation that both sides misrepresented the facts. mr. romney misrepresented the facts on his medicare plan and on the president's. let me say, yes, he has to be aggressive in defining who mitt romney is. he'll use his own words. mr. 47%. i think, i think, lay out his vision in contradistinction to romney's and do so in a more aggressive way. >> i want to ask you about the enthusiasm gap particularly among latino voters. we see in our polling while the president has a huge edge in the latino vote, there's a real drop-off since 2008 when then it was 77% enthusiasm, now it is 59% in terms of hispanic americans. what you going to do to make sure people turn out? >> nare sending me all over the country. i'll be at jefferson-jackson dinner in iowa, i've been it to florida. we have surrogates all across the country. we have a grassroots campaign that has been talked about as the most a
both sides made misstatements in the debate. doesn't the president need a different game plan going into the next debate? >> i don't accept that the postulation that both sides misrepresented the facts. mr. romney misrepresented the facts on his medicare plan and on the president's. let me say, yes, he has to be aggressive in defining who mitt romney is. he'll use his own words. mr. 47%. i think, i think, lay out his vision in contradistinction to romney's and do so in a more aggressive...
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my personal position is very similar to governor romney's. i thought both of these -- the candidates last night were sincere and made good statements on that subject. i do think the vice president was sincerely wrong when he said that religious institutions are not going to have to provide contraceptives when it's against their crede. i think the law does that. but i thought they were both pretty good on that. i think this election is still about economics and in the first instance and then foreign policy and i thought vice president -- i thought -- i almost said vice president ryan. congressman ryan did a great job in explaining governor romney's position on those. i also think that -- >> go ahead. >> avoided mistakes and the vice president didn't. his statements on benghazi as you've been covering andrea, are going to be an ongoing problem for the administration. they really just enhanced the contradictions in the administration's policy. >> there were other issues for paul ryan, though, when it came to medicare and tax policy that have bee
my personal position is very similar to governor romney's. i thought both of these -- the candidates last night were sincere and made good statements on that subject. i do think the vice president was sincerely wrong when he said that religious institutions are not going to have to provide contraceptives when it's against their crede. i think the law does that. but i thought they were both pretty good on that. i think this election is still about economics and in the first instance and then...
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there is daylight between mitt romney and -- >> he likes to have it both places. >> but the big bird thing points to a larger i think willful disavowel of struggle in this country. >> and struggle and structure. you're on the titanic, i'm going to give you a voucher, a life -- you know a life boat so to speak or what he called life jacket to go on, but the ship is sinking. you plug the hole. the structural problems mitt romney seems to have no comprehension of, that they're beyond -- if i put a size 10 feet -- foot in a size 8 shoe there are structural problems. i have a choice to choose from. >> tell me about it. >> okay. so my high heels hurt me as well. the reality is that to make the argument about vouchers is really to talk about a philosophical difference but the philosophical difference rests on the convenience and luxury to say we're going to give a voucher to some to make the choice, that misunderstands the fact that so many other people don't have choices and the people that are left behind are forced into a situation over which they exercise no control. so the illusion of
there is daylight between mitt romney and -- >> he likes to have it both places. >> but the big bird thing points to a larger i think willful disavowel of struggle in this country. >> and struggle and structure. you're on the titanic, i'm going to give you a voucher, a life -- you know a life boat so to speak or what he called life jacket to go on, but the ship is sinking. you plug the hole. the structural problems mitt romney seems to have no comprehension of, that they're...
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my sense is that the difference between the two campaigns is that both sides agree with the 2014 plan to leave afghanistan, but that the romney and ryan side is making it conditional whereas the obama/biden side is making it definite. is that the distinction that vice president biden was trying to describe tonight? >> that's exactly right. it's a key distinction. the longest war in american history. the american people want those troops to come home. they want to turn over to the afghans the responsibility. you should have seen the needle jump on those networks that were following it with proud reaction when joe biden made that clear. finally, after two or three times hitting on it, paul ryan backed off of it. the fact is there. romney's been talking about conditions. the president and the vice president have said they're coming home 2014. >> why did vice president biden hammer paul ryan tonight on the issue of him requesting stimulus funds for his district? i get that he caught him in a little bit of hypocrisy, but he's not realistically criticizing paul ryan for having asked for fun
my sense is that the difference between the two campaigns is that both sides agree with the 2014 plan to leave afghanistan, but that the romney and ryan side is making it conditional whereas the obama/biden side is making it definite. is that the distinction that vice president biden was trying to describe tonight? >> that's exactly right. it's a key distinction. the longest war in american history. the american people want those troops to come home. they want to turn over to the afghans...
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ryan has to defend both his record and mitt romney's, and in some cases, those two tasks midi verge. the bottom line for ryan, he has to prove he's ready to be president. that is tonight's most important test, and one that i think a lot of people miss when it comes to what a vp debate means. ryan's readiness, of course, on foreign policy, that's going to come up as well. tonight's 90-minute debate is divided between domestic and foreign policy, and moderator martha raddatz says she will alternate between the two in nine ten-minute segments. each segment will have a response followed by untimed discussion. libya will indeed come up tonight. speaking of libya, that was the subject of a heated congressional hearing yesterday that was one part spectacle and one part substance. the bottom line, no part of the hearing was good for the white house. two former security officers from the libyan mission testified that their requests for help were either turned down or ignored. >> i asked for 12 agents. his response to that was you're asking for the sun, moon, and the stars. you know what makes
ryan has to defend both his record and mitt romney's, and in some cases, those two tasks midi verge. the bottom line for ryan, he has to prove he's ready to be president. that is tonight's most important test, and one that i think a lot of people miss when it comes to what a vp debate means. ryan's readiness, of course, on foreign policy, that's going to come up as well. tonight's 90-minute debate is divided between domestic and foreign policy, and moderator martha raddatz says she will...
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good morning, both of. >> did you good morning. >> susan, romney's statement appeared to be away from the democrats tried use against them and campaign quickly issued a statement saying mitt romney is pro-life. what is going on with the romney message? >> well, i think romney is -- governor romney is definitely trying to pivot to the middle. we were waiting to do this last spring and early summer when he clinched the republican nomination. he's doing it now kind of on the late side. it is the same sort of more centrist message that we heard in the debate last week. >> clearly, this is sort of across the board campaign theme that the democrats pushing. listen to bill clinton in vegas. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i thought -- i thought -- wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you the last two years. now the problem with this deal is the deal was made by severe conservative mitt. that was how he described himself for two whole years. until three, four days before the debate they all got together and said hey,
good morning, both of. >> did you good morning. >> susan, romney's statement appeared to be away from the democrats tried use against them and campaign quickly issued a statement saying mitt romney is pro-life. what is going on with the romney message? >> well, i think romney is -- governor romney is definitely trying to pivot to the middle. we were waiting to do this last spring and early summer when he clinched the republican nomination. he's doing it now kind of on the late...
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thank you both very much, tadd and phil, great to see you still ahead the unanswered questions about that attack in benghazi. and up next, smack down down under. the prime minister's fiery tirade goes global. >> time for the your business entrepreneur of the week. former model and goldman sachs analyst created shop teaks, a fantastic marketplace that helps local boutiques that don't have their e-commerce sites sell on-line. content sells so she launched a companion on-line magazine as an ultimate source for what's in. for more watch your business sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> topping the headlines on "andrea mitchell reports" the u.s. anti-doping agency will soon release evidence to support its decision to hand lance armstrong a lifetime deci
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both campaigns have hit the reset button. the president has a revamped stump speech that starts with a list of his accomplishments. it has a sharper tone, too. here he's insinuating romney's being less than honest about his tax
both campaigns have hit the reset button. the president has a revamped stump speech that starts with a list of his accomplishments. it has a sharper tone, too. here he's insinuating romney's being less than honest about his tax
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is the romney campaign wrong to politicize this while an investigation is ongoing? >> well, i think that when it comes to ambassador stevens' death all of us honor him for his service and his contribution to both our country and to what he did to help further the peace in libya. but what i think is an issue is this question of leadership and then how the events unfolded, what the white house did know, when it did know -- and when it knew it. so i think there's a separation. it's not necessarily about ambassador stevens but, in fact, about foreign policy and leadership and how this administration is handling the crisis that has stemmed from this internally. remember, richard, these were the same folks that came out and condemned anybody who suggested it was anything other than a video and now we're saying, hey, let's not talk about it. >> shawn -- >> i think there's a -- a lot has to do with the handling. >> in all deference though to ambassador stevens' father, how will the governor honor his request? >> again, there is one thing to talk about an individual and brin
is the romney campaign wrong to politicize this while an investigation is ongoing? >> well, i think that when it comes to ambassador stevens' death all of us honor him for his service and his contribution to both our country and to what he did to help further the peace in libya. but what i think is an issue is this question of leadership and then how the events unfolded, what the white house did know, when it did know -- and when it knew it. so i think there's a separation. it's not...
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he gave us both answers in the last debate. what is your understanding of the governor's approach, he's a presidential candidate, to simpson-bowles? yes or no. >> the governor's approach to simpson-bowles it's a step in the right direction, right. >> but he has his own plan and his own plan would, you know, does not involve some of the components of simpson bowls. as it relates to that, you know, on that issue, he's been pretty clear. he's got his own plan -- >> he hasn't been clear. >> okay. time-out. mitt romney did one thing that everybody acknowledges, even though in his own party, which is pivot further towards the center. paul ryan's budget has been declared by some folks, some analysts, including those in the republican party, to be a fairly strong document win that takes specific stances on the american social compact. do you think paul ryan will be defending mitt romney's moderate position tonight or mitt romney's previously severely conservative position of the campaign trail? >> he'll be presenting people with a hard
he gave us both answers in the last debate. what is your understanding of the governor's approach, he's a presidential candidate, to simpson-bowles? yes or no. >> the governor's approach to simpson-bowles it's a step in the right direction, right. >> but he has his own plan and his own plan would, you know, does not involve some of the components of simpson bowls. as it relates to that, you know, on that issue, he's been pretty clear. he's got his own plan -- >> he hasn't been...
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and financially both the republican super pacs and romney campaign, the obama campaign and his super pac, they've spent more cash in those three states than anywhere else. and if you look at ohio especially, the spending in the big markets there, columbus, cincinnati and cleveland, it's much higher than any other markets in the country. so i think it really is coming down to those three. and the obama folks think that romney has got to have all three or there's no path for him. the romney campaign makes the case that they can win two of the three and still find a path, but it gets much more difficult because the margin of error, if you're romney and you only win two of the three, it doesn't allow for any other losses, really. >> mark halperin, where does the romney campaign see the most opportunity, number one, and which one are they most concerned about? >> the most opportunity is florida. in fact, i think they are hoping they can effectively put it away in the next few weeks, the obama folks here don't agree with that. the ohio is the toughest one. romney continues to have i had yo
and financially both the republican super pacs and romney campaign, the obama campaign and his super pac, they've spent more cash in those three states than anywhere else. and if you look at ohio especially, the spending in the big markets there, columbus, cincinnati and cleveland, it's much higher than any other markets in the country. so i think it really is coming down to those three. and the obama folks think that romney has got to have all three or there's no path for him. the romney...
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. >> i think there are huge organizational holes that romney dug for himself in both of those states. >> chuck, it's donny. you talked a lot and i found this fascinating about kind of enthusiasm gap as far as that energizing. i found those numbers stunning and as a he democrat very concerning. talk a little bit about na. >> it was predebate, and that's the other thing. it's something we've been tracking. this has been sort of the issue. it's why the president was in columbus yesterday. it's why he did -- his last two rallies, madison, wisconsin and columbus, ohio. the university of wisconsin and ohio state university. this issue of enthusiasm among young voters and enthusiasm among latinos in particular, those two parts of his base. african-american enthusiasm subpoeis up and fine and there. latinos and young voters, this is sort of the president's challenge. it's not about swing voters for him i would argue. at this point it's about trying to fire up two voting groups more than anything else, because they doubled it. he's winning latinos by a bigger margin, but because they're not as
. >> i think there are huge organizational holes that romney dug for himself in both of those states. >> chuck, it's donny. you talked a lot and i found this fascinating about kind of enthusiasm gap as far as that energizing. i found those numbers stunning and as a he democrat very concerning. talk a little bit about na. >> it was predebate, and that's the other thing. it's something we've been tracking. this has been sort of the issue. it's why the president was in columbus...